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socialist cook- 12-08-2005
A friend of a friend commenting last night:

"Did you see that David Cameron, he says he wants to agree with Blair? What's the point of that?" laugh.gif

Love_Libs- 12-11-2005
Be that as it may, Tories ahead of Labour for first time in 13 years?

B1oodFlower- 12-11-2005
1. The opinion polls are less reliable than Cardiff Busses.
2. Cameron has only just been elected he hasn't announced any policy just a bunch of vague soundbites.
3. Its another four years out from a new election so who cares?
4. I note that some of the papers he's ahead in are tory leaning publications the Times ect..
5. This is the phoney war wait for Gordon Brown to come in before you can read anything into polls.

frankiegoestostoke- 12-15-2005
I'm a labour party member, and a socialist labour party member at that.

But I think David Cameron is a Good Thing. David Cameron, on pretty much every issue other than Europe, is to the left of his party. Or at least he acts it. He is a product of the inescapeable liberal consensus that has emerged since 1992, and we have, after eight years, finally pulled the tories back to the left in the same way Thatcher pulled us to the right.

Furthermore, the Tory Party are going to be back in power eventually, and when they do come back into its better for the country that someone like Cameron rather than Davis is at the helm.

B1oodFlower- 12-15-2005
Hmm I agree to an extent but even if Cameron is to the left of his party his policies are still centerist thus there's a rush to the middle ground and increasingly there will be little difference between the parties. I urge Brown to take on some more left wing policies if he takes over.

socialist cook- 12-19-2005
QUOTE (B1oodFlower @ Dec 15 2005, 06:40 PM)
I urge Brown to take on some more left wing policies if he takes over.

That's a bit idealist to want that really though Bill.

*It's also what i want though* laugh.gif

But we've got to blame certain political scientists like Antony Downs(in the 1950s and 60s) who through research found that most voters lay in the centre between left and right.

If anything i'd say most of the electorate, with reference only to Europe is mainly slightly to the right of centre.

But if anything it's about striking a balance between going for the centre ground and somehow remaining different from your rivals, which cannot be done effectively also if certain constituencies mean more votes wise than others.....


B1oodFlower- 12-19-2005
What can I say, People say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one...

darkanddivine- 01-08-2006
QUOTE (B1oodFlower @ Dec 15 2005, 06:40 PM)
Hmm I agree to an extent but even if Cameron is to the left of his party his policies are still centerist thus there's a rush to the middle ground and increasingly there will be little difference between the parties. I urge Brown to take on some more left wing policies if he takes over.

I wish I had won the race, I'd have taken the fuckers down from the inside! biggrin.gif

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