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iloveculture- 02-28-2005
QUOTE (Paul @ Feb 28 2005, 01:59 PM)
monty python was/is genius..

Cant comment on The Mighty Boosh as i have never sat down and watched it properly.

the guy with the indie hair cant act though. Was he any good at stand up??

He had one minute to do some material on a show called 28 Acts in 28 Minutes. His act consisted of nothing other than him running about and shouting "MONKEEEES" in a silly voice. That's a 'no' then.


Ross Noble: Also falls into the "If I talk about monkeys a lot then I'm quite clearly amusing". Not too keen on his stand up but I enjoy him when he guests on Have I Got News For You.


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it dont make me an idiot for liking it.(i no you never actually said i was)..


So why bring that up then?


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And you cant take me seriously because i dont like Monty Python?..I have watched more or less every episode.

Ok and in rereading my opinion of Monty Python,yes i was a wee bit harsh.Crap and overated may be a bit extreme yet i like the things i like so i,quite badly if im being honest,attempt to defend them.



My only problem was that you just dismissed it without really saying why. Fair enough perhaps, but it is nice to hear people's reasons. "It's over rated" doesn't work as a legitimate criticism since you don't state why.

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The reason i said you that you took it too seriously was because you seem intent to give the Boosh a bad name..it seems to me that your not content on just letting things be?


ps..i never started the Antagonism..i just said Mighty Boosh was good.
And if i did seem hostile then fair enough.you no why i did?..maybe because you seem intent on taking anyones opinions that dont match your own and disecting them with your clever use of quotes to ridicule that particular persons opinion.I just find it patronising.


No, no. I just like discussing things I like with other people. This is a DISCUSSION forum after all.



Oh, last night's Boosh. The line about having a generic face as being useless for being a spy was alright, although Topman Boosh delivered it terribly.

Queueman- 02-28-2005
Cos i was just sayin im not an idiot for liking it..then i put the brackets as a disclaimer so you didnt have a paddy.

and Ross Noble,dont simply badmouth his act because he mentions Monkeys maybe a couple of times..that would be rather foolish of you.he is by and far the best stand up comedian i have the pleasure of seeing.You are wrong on that front..and i will stand by that.

a 'no' because he performed a crappy act on a sketch show?...i doubt someone who clearly takes pride in there comedy that you can dismiss him on the basis of that,or is it because its plainly obvious you dislike the man?..

DISCUSSION forum?..well ok,theres no need to raise your voice,im quite content about having a good healthy discussion.but i still stand by the fact that you are indeed patronising and seem intent on putting yourself above others who do not share your opinion.The way you use your quotes is very irritating,it seems as if your trying to look down at me and sneer at me.Its sooo fookin irritatin.i cant stand arrogant and patronising people.u seem to me confrontational.

iloveculture- 02-28-2005

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and Ross Noble,dont simply badmouth his act because he mentions Monkeys maybe a couple of times..that would be rather foolish of you.he is by and far the best stand up comedian i have the pleasure of seeing.You are wrong on that front..and i will stand by that.


Well, I'm not wrong since I'm merely voicing an opinion. I just find most rferences to monkeys/otters/badgers in modern comedy to be lazy (see also: Stephen Hawking) and horribly student-esque. As I've said, I find him amiable enough on panel shows.

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a 'no' because he performed a crappy act on a sketch show?...i doubt someone who clearly takes pride in there comedy that you can dismiss him on the basis of that,or is it because its plainly obvious you dislike the man?..


Look, could you get your facts straight please? Otherwise I'm just wasting my time typing here. It was a stand up show, NOT a sketch show. But that's not terribly important. However, it is important that Paul asked me if Noel Fielding's stand up was any good and I replied with "no" based on what I had seen him perform. And yes, it was only a minute's worth of material, but you'd think that if you're only given a minute to perform some comedy you'd pick a minute that was you at your funniest and which represented your style the best, surely? I don't like him because he's unfunny, his acting is dire and he seems to represent this new breed of sub-par comedians about at the minute. If he made me laugh then I'd rightly eat my words, because I do enjoy comedy so much.

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DISCUSSION forum?..well ok,theres no need to raise your voice,


Sorry, I wasn't shouting, simply highlighting.

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im quite content about having a good healthy discussion.but i still stand by the fact that you are indeed patronising and seem intent on putting yourself above others who do not share your opinion.


And yet you're the one who treats their opinions as facts.

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The way you use your quotes is very irritating,it seems as if your trying to look down at me and sneer at me.Its sooo fookin irritatin.i cant stand arrogant and patronising people.u seem to me confrontational.


Not at all. I just find that if someone makes a point that I disagree with on a forum, then the easiest way to argue against that point is to quote it and then reply accordingly. If you make a few seperate points that I argue against, then I'll quote them seperately as it's easier for me and, presumably whoever reads it. How is that patronising? Why else is there a quote facility on this board?

Love_Libs- 02-28-2005
Ross Noble is brilliant off the cuff.

His live shows always seem patchy to me, his better jokes seem to be ones that emerge on the way to the real joke that he's slowly setting up.
He should be a permanent HIGNFY panelist though, with Hislop, Merton and another.
I don't have BBC3 so i cant comment on this Boosh thing.

Queueman- 02-28-2005
Ok,ur not wrong sice your merely voicing an opinion..as youve probably no doubt noticed im not the most articulate debater you will ever come across and i probably dont think about things i say enough.
But to label Ross Noble student-esqe?..how and why is that a bad thing?..well im sorry if his style is childish and non to political but i dont really see him pretending to be something he not.He expresses himself in the way he knows he can best,by being childish i admit,but extremely funny and charming at the same time.Yes his Stephen Hawking jokes are a bit illadvised but hes so obviosly good natured you can hardly use that as a criticism...

Ok and maybe it was a stand up show and to do that monkeys thing for a minute sounds terribly cringeworthy..yet if he makes some laugh and others not then thats only expected.Im guessing that he doenst do that in his stand up shows and that there is more to his performance.Hes won all kinds of awards for them,yes i know that that doesnt mean there incredible but hes obviusly doing something right.

No problem about the DISCUSSION thing,i simply misunderstood.(thats not sarcasm,i acutally mean no problem)

I dont treat my opinions as facts..i merely stand by my opinions,theres a difference.

I didnt mean the quote thing is irritating.Its just the feeling i get from the way you use them.It seems to me that your response after the quotes normailly appears to be dismissive and arrogant.

Oh i cant be arsed with this.I dont like arguments and we clearly dont agree and never will..maybe its because im 'student-esqe' and your obviuosly not.

Love_Libs- 02-28-2005
he's got you there, ilc.
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iloveculture- 02-28-2005
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But to label Ross Noble student-esqe?..how and why is that a bad thing?..well im sorry if his style is childish and non to political but i dont really see him pretending to be something he not.He expresses himself in the way he knows he can best,by being childish i admit,but extremely funny and charming at the same time


It's just the fact that some comedians just use material about 'monkeys and otters' as a really crap and unsophisticated way of doing surreal comedy. It's all just a bit..I dunno..like asking a 6th former to come up with a comedy sketch. I just find it uninteresting and terribly uninspiring.

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Yes his Stephen Hawking jokes are a bit illadvised but hes so obviosly good natured you can hardly use that as a criticism...


Haha! I forgot Noble did quite a bit of Stephen Hawking material! When I mentioned the fact that comedians use Hawking like they use monkeys and otters, I wasn't specifically referring to Noble. But yes, he does do a Hawking routine doesn't he? I genuinely forgot about that! Dear me. It's not the offensive nature of the material, it's just the lazyness of it:

"It's like Stephen Hawking buying a packet of crisps. 'Give. Me. Salt. AND. Vinegar. Actually. No. I'll. Have. The. Monkey. Flavour' "

or something

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Ok and maybe it was a stand up show and to do that monkeys thing for a minute sounds terribly cringeworthy..yet if he makes some laugh and others not then thats only expected.Im guessing that he doenst do that in his stand up shows and that there is more to his performance.Hes won all kinds of awards for them,yes i know that that doesnt mean there incredible but hes obviusly doing something right.


But that's not good enough though, surely? You seem to be making excuses for this guy just because I don't like him. Excuses which are wafer-thin at best anyway. After you said why you didn't care for Monty Python's Flying Circus I didn't bother going on and on to defend the show as I'm happy enough to enjoy it even if you don't. Why are you so bothered if I find The Mighty Boosh to be insulting?

I didn't know the Boosh had won loads of awards other than a perrier or whatever it was anyway by the way.



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I dont treat my opinions as facts..i merely stand by my opinions,theres a difference.


Well, to be fair, you did say "You are wrong on that front..and i will stand by that" which shows that you do.

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I didnt mean the quote thing is irritating.Its just the feeling i get from the way you use them.It seems to me that your response after the quotes normailly appears to be dismissive and arrogant.


Far from it. I'm thinking about what you say and responding accordingly.

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Oh i cant be arsed with this.I dont like arguments and we clearly dont agree and never will..maybe its because im 'student-esqe' and your obviuosly not.



Why would you say that?. I am a student at university you know. The ''student humour'' thing I mentioned earlier about monkeys was just a term that people sometimes use to describe that dreadful sort of lazy comedy. Like when people describe some of Nicky Wire's lyrics as "6th formy".


EDIT: Love_Libs, what are you on about? It's not some sort of bloody competition.

Love_Libs- 02-28-2005
It was a joke. Clearly, of Ross Noble's standards.

Mike- 02-28-2005
Queueman, PM me your e-mail address and I'll send you a song with Noel Fielding telling a story over the top, that may help you decide if he's a good stand-up act. I think it's hilarious. Also, I think he was the best thing on 28 Acts by miles, the rest of that programme was dire.

Queueman- 02-28-2005
Ok it may have sounded like i believed my opinions were factual but i did say im not the most articulate of debater so dont be so pedantic. dry.gif

Well if your a student then surely u should like student things?..well i do,sorry for not being adequately mature..i doubt you could say that Ross Noble is lazy,seeing as most of his act is completely spontaneous.Did you not see that bit about "keeping it vaguely imaginary"..it is one of the funniest things i have ever seen.

Oh you know what.im gona end this Debate/Argument/Discussion/Competition because i cant be arsed to be frank.

Ok if you want,ILC,you win...

Ross Noble isnt funny.The Mighty Boosh is crap.Noel Fielding should be shot.And everyone should only listen to you.

yes that bit was childish but i dont care.im a student and im proud of it tongue.gif

At the end of the day,Comedy is Comedy,it doesnt matter about the subject matter!?!?!?...my god,as long as it makes you laugh then thats all that matters.

Paul- 02-28-2005
so its ok if i like Will and Grace

Wahooooooooo

Queueman- 02-28-2005
Oh go then happy.gif
only cos shes FINE!!! tongue.gif
wink.gif

Queueman- 02-28-2005
Oh an final parting shot..(which is cheap but i dont care happy.gif )
click back to the first page..look at all those glowing accounts of Boosh' genius.
Surely if its made that many people laugh then its doing alright?. rolleyes.gif
and as far as im aware your the only one on this topic who disagrees. smile.gif

Comradestripe- 02-28-2005
QUOTE (Queueman @ Feb 28 2005, 05:40 PM)
Oh an final parting shot..(which is cheap but i dont care happy.gif )
click back to the first page..look at all those glowing accounts of Boosh' genius.
Surely if its made that many people laugh then its doing alright?. rolleyes.gif

If you use that reasoning, you could say 'well, Nazism is okay because loads of people believed in it' or 'Keane are okay because loads of people have bought their album'.

I can't see why you all get so het up against Iloveculture; he's clearly just talking about something he's passionate about. He's not insulted or belittled you, just given his well-founded opinion on people. He's not asking you all to agree with him, either.

I'm disappointed to hear that Ross Noble's stand-up's not that good; I really like him on HIGNFY. Also, someone said I reminded her of him in our yearbook, so I've always used that to preen myself unsure.gif

I couldn't see Arrested Development or The Mighty Boosh in the end sad.gif

Queueman- 02-28-2005
Oh come on..compaing it to Nazism?...thats just silly.People were either killed or brain washed into following it.they hardly just chose to!!!...
The Boosh is a comdey show and if people laugh it then it is funny!..surely?..cos thats the only way you can judge a comedy show?..

Ross Noble's stand up is BrillianT!!!!..listen take my word for it.if u liked him on have i got news for you then you'll love him,ILC is not always right ya no!.
Its amazin!..

ILC gets passionate,and i dont begrudge him.i respect him for that.fair do's,he probly dislikes me...but i dont dislike him. (remembers epsiode of the simpsons where homer joins the navy)...i respect him for standing up for the things he believes in,i just found him arrogant,but im the same at times cos i getg very passionate..

oh an watch The Mighty Boosh.you might just like it. happy.gif

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